Sunday, December 21, 2014

Decades of Mob Violence Behind Waterfront Case

The week before Christmas 2014, three North New Jersey-based Genovese crime family mobsters pleaded guilty to waterfront racketeering in a case going on for years -- since January 2011's Mafia Takedown Day.

But the Genovese family's control of the New Jersey waterfront goes back decades and includes many storied mobsters of the past who killed and were killed for control of the lucrative waterfront rackets of the Garden State. The Genovese family even ran its own hit squad, which focused on murdering FBI informants, among others.

The guy who owned the “Godfather’s Garden.”
The bloodless indictment by comparison likely will end with three men serving three-year prison sentences.



The key count in the indictment is conspiracy to extort members of the International Longshoremen’s Association for Christmastime tribute payments, according to New Jersey U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman and Eastern District of New York U.S. Attorney Loretta E. Lynch.

Genovese soldier Stephen "Beach" Depiro, 59, along with two family associates -- former president of ILA Local 1235 Albert Cernadas, 79, and former vp of ILA Local 1478 Nunzio LaGrasso, 64 -- pleaded guilty in Newark federal court.before U.S. District Judge Claire C. Cecchi.

Depiro admitted to predicate acts involving conspiracy to commit extortion and bookmaking. Cernadas and LaGrasso admitted to predicate acts involving conspiracy to commit extortion and multiple extortions.

Since at least 2005, Depiro has managed the Genovese family’s control over the New Jersey waterfront – including the nearly three-decades-long extortion of port workers in ILA Local 1, ILA Local 1235 and ILA Local 1478. Members of the Genovese family, including Depiro, are charged with conspiring to collect tribute payments from New Jersey port workers at Christmas Time each year through their corrupt influence over union officials, including the last three presidents of Local 1235 and vice president of ILA Local 1478. Depiro also controlled a sports betting package that was managed by several others, through the use of an overseas sports betting operation.

During their guilty plea proceedings, Depiro, Cernadas and LaGrasso admitted their involvement in the Genovese family, including conspiring to compel tribute payments from ILA union members, who made the payments based on actual and threatened force, violence and fear. Cernadas and LaGrasso admitted to carrying out multiple extortions of dockworkers. The timing of the extortions typically coincided with the receipt by certain ILA members of “Container Royalty Fund” checks, a form of year-end compensation.

The racketeering charge to which Depiro, Cernadas and LaGrasso pleaded guilty carries a maximum potential penalty of 20 years in prison, though according to GangLand News sources, plea agreements carry recommended prison terms of about three years.

In a story posted last Thursday Santa's Made A List, Checked It Twice; No Christmas Gifts On The Waterfront, Jerry Capeci noted: "The trio are the last remaining defendants in the only still pending case stemming from the arrests of 127 mob-connected defendants on Mafia Takedown Day nearly four years ago.

"The case was a throwback to the bad old days of On the Waterfront-style schemes in which mobsters and their designated union stooges preyed on hard-working laborers. The indictment alleges that the Genovese family employed a "systemic use of actual and threatened force, violence and fear" to extort about $3 million in "Christmas tributes" from longshoremen beginning in 1982. Actually, the feds say the scheme began years earlier, but the indictment only goes back to when Cernadas got involved after he took over as president of Local 1235."

Depiro was a long-time soldier under the family's powerful waterfront capo Tino Fiumara, who was supposedly part of a three-man panel running the family at the time of his death in 2010.

Fiumara controlled Newark/Elizabeth Seaport-based unions and engaged in loansharking, extortion, gambling, and union and labor racketeering throughout the New Jersey counties of Union, Essex and Bergen.

The Feds attribute a around a dozen murders to Fiumara, who once belonged to a Genovese family hit squad. Several of Tino's alleged victims were FBI informants.

Tino Fiumara


Fiumara designated Depiro as his acting capo to run operations on the New Jersey piers and docks after Genovese soldier Lawrence Ricci was found with two bullets in his head in the trunk of a car parked behind a North Jersey diner in 2005. Fiumara himself likely gave the order.

Tino came up in the mob alongside Michael "Mikey Cigars" Coppola. In fact both were together in the late 1960s when they worked for New Jersey capo Ruggiero "Richie The Boot" Boiardo, who lived in Livingston, New Jersey, in a lurid mansion that supposedly was the model for the home in which HBO's Tony Soprano lived with his family in the award-winning HBO series.


“You gotta do what you gotta do and sometimes you do it with tears in your eyes.


Tino was "an imposing figure who kept fit in his later years and favored cashmere sports jackets and turtleneck sweaters," according to a New York Times report.

Fiumara was known by both law enforcement and his criminal cohorts for being as canny as he was ruthless.

He once traveled in the trunk of a car to defeat surveillance, according to an account provided to investigators by an informer. He also routinely drove the wrong way down one-way streets, traveled up highway off-ramps, regularly switched cars and even rode a bicycle — sometimes traveling through parks into which cars could not follow — to lose his F.B.I. pursuers, according to court papers. 
He never used his home phone to discuss mob business and eschewed cellphones, communicating only with pagers and pay phones, and maintaining a list of some 20 locations at any given time where he knew he could be neither watched nor overheard, according to court papers. 
Indeed, Paul J. McCarthy, a veteran F.B.I. agent who spent at least four years investigating Mr. Fiumara in the 1990s, said in a 1998 affidavit that the man had used “more extensive countersurveillance techniques than I have ever seen in all my years in law enforcement.” The application was for a roving wiretap so agents could listen in on his pay phone calls.


Fiumara was so low key, it is not widely known that his brother was married to an aunt of New Jersey’s governor Chris Christie. (Christie also can be pretty discreet about some things. He visited Fiumara in prison in 1991, but did not disclose this when his office announced a plea bargain in that case.)

Fiumara’s reputation for cunning was so powerful, when he died in September 2010, law enforcement officials didn't believe he was dead. One F.B.I. supervisor sent two agents to confirm Fiumara’s demise. They visited the Long Island funeral home that buried him; the proprietor assured them that Fiumara, who had moved to South Huntington, New York, after his 2005 release from prison, was indeed dead. But that didn't stop the FBI, who then visited the hospital where Fiumara had been undergoing cancer treatment when he died. There, they were finally satisfied: Fiumara, head of the Genovese family’s waterfront rackets, was indeed dead.

Richie Prisco
Court papers filed in the case of another Genovese crime family figure revealed that, according to a government informer in the late 1970s, Fiumara belonged to a Genovese family hit team known as “The Fist.”

Four murders linked to Fiumara and "The Fist" involved men who talked or were planning to talk to the authorities; the fatal topic of discussion in all cases was John DiGilio, Fiumara’s mob superior.

The New York Daily News also reported about "The Fist" hit squad in an article about "Mikey Cigars" Coppola, who was busted in 2007 after a decade on the lam. Tino's longtime partner in crime, Mikey Cigars also was a member of the ruthless group of Mafia murderers,once based in Newark, New Jersey.

On December 18, 2009 Coppola was sentenced to 16 years in prison. His projected release date is March 4, 2024. Though convicted of racketeering, Coppola was acquitted of the 1977 execution of New Jersey gangster John "Johnny Coca Cola" Lardiere.

Coppola didn't want to kill mob associate “Johnny Coca Cola," former Luchese hit man Thomas Ricciardi revealed in testimony at Mikey Cigars' trial. 

“You gotta do what you gotta do and sometimes you do it with tears in your eyes,” Coppola allegedly told Ricciardi in 1983.

During the hit, a wounded Johnny Coca Cola, noticing that Coppola's gun had jammed, famously barked: “What are you gonna do now, tough guy?” Coppola allegedly then pulled a second gun and fired four more bullets into his target.

Lardiere was serving a contempt sentence at the time, but was granted a two-day prison furlough. Law enforcement officials remarked that the Genovese crime family had ordered the hit because, while in prison, Johnny Coca Cola had gotten into a fight with a high-ranking mobster held in the same  jail.

Coppola was  formally initiated into the Genovese family following the hit, authorities said.

Ricciardi, who admitted to participating in 11 murder conspiracies, also said Fiumara played a role in organizing the hit, though Fiumara was not charged.

[The term "The Fist" was used again in the mid-1980s. It referred to John Gotti and four other primary plotters against then-Gambino boss Paul Castellano; they collectively referred to themselves as "the fist." Gotti and his "fist" plotted for more nearly nine months to kill Castellano before they finally whacked him during Christmas week 1985. Whether the resurrection of the name was a coincidence or on purpose, we can't say.]


''Gene Gotti's dead,'' Manna repeated. 

''We're gonna be paying for this, you know, for the rest of our lives,'' Napoli said.


In May 1988 DiGilio himself was murdered. His body was found inside a mortician's bag in the Hackensack River. DiGilio had disappeared three weeks prior. Genovese capo Angelo Prisco, the Bronx-based wiseguy who took over the slain gangster’s crew in the early 1990s, was found guilty of committing the murder, ordered by Vincent "the Chin" Gigante. DiGilio was killed two weeks after he was acquitted of racketeering on the Bayonne, N.J. waterfront. He had dramatically represented himself during trial but obviously was no fool -- making this one hell of an achievement. Nevertheless, according to court papers, Gigante ordered his murder after the former boxer/labor racketeer fell out of favor with Louis "Bobby" Manna, who was also based in New Jersey.


WATERFRONT GANGSTER PLOTTED JOHN GOTTI HIT
Manna’s New Jersey headquarters was based in an office in Casella’s Restaurant in Hoboken. From there, he managed gambling, loansharking, labor racketeering, corruption and pier thefts in the region. Based on investigative findings, Manna controlled portions of Hudson County once believed to be under DiGilio's purview.

Manna was jailed for three years in the 1970s for refusing to answer questions about organized crime, but his goose was cooked in June, 1989, when he was convicted of ordering the murder of New York businessman Irwin Schiff and of plotting the murder of then-Gambino boss John Gotti, as well as Gotti’s brother, Gene.

Manna had been indicted along with Martin Casella and Richard "Bocci" DeSciscio. Authorities said the plot to kill the Gottis surfaced in 1987 during a joint FBI-New Jersey State Police investigation into Manna's Mafia activities. Dozens of secretly recorded conversations were obtained after the FBI placed a listening device in Casella's Restaurant. The taped conversations occurred between August 1987 and January 1988.

In one conversation, Casella and two unidentified men discussed the impending slaying of Schiff, who Federal officials said had links to both the Genovese and Gambino crime families and was thought to have been skimming money owed the Genovese family. Schiff was a New York City construction consultant with suspected mob ties. Tipping the scale at around 350 pounds, he was called "the Fat Man" and was gunned down in 1987 in "classic gangland style" while eating dinner in a posh Manhattan restaurant.


 "If Gaspipe could have been talked into killing our friend, you know who would have been our boss, Alley Shades … He was always up John's ass." 


The plot against John Gotti arose in a Sept. 21 in a conversation among Manna, Casella and another man. The plan was to attack Gotti near a club he frequented in Ozone Park, Queens. ''Wear a disguise,'' Manna said. ''It's an open place.''

The FBI subsequently notified Gotti of the plot. According to an Oct. 9 transcript, the Genovese mobsters learned of the warning -- but wanted the two Gottis dead so badly, they continued plotting.

"Hey, John Gotti knows,'' Casella said on Oct. 9.

An unidentified man responded, ''John Gotti knows we. . . .''

''That we ordered it?'' another man said.

The plotting continued. On Jan. 10, Manna referenced ''a big hit, John Gotti,'' and then apparently discussed the selection of gunman.

Two days later, in a conversation between Manna and James Napoli, Manna said: ''Gene Gotti's dead.''

''When are you gonna hit him?'' Napoli asked.

''Gene Gotti's dead,'' Manna repeated.

''We're gonna be paying for this, you know, for the rest of our lives,'' Napoli said.

John Gotti was doing some plotting of his own. His plan was to murder the Chin and put Genovese capo and longtime friend Alfonso "Allie Shades" Malangone in the big seat. This is based on an FBI summary of tape recorded remarks made by Genovese capo Alan "Baldie" Long during a three-year investigation of the Genovese family.

"John Gotti was taking over. (Be)cause our friend (Malangone) grew up with him, we could make a deal. He (Chin) was dead," Longo said, adding that the scheme collapsed when Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso declined to take part. "If Gaspipe could have been talked into killing our friend, you know who would have been our boss, Alley Shades … He was always up John's ass," said Longo, who was Malangone's bodyguard and chauffeur in 1988, when the plotting and counter-plotting was in full swing.


GRISLY MURDER CREDITED TO FIUMARA
Fiumara  is believed to be responsible for the grisly death of a big bookmaker in New Jersey, who was found in a snow-covered dump. As GangLand News reported, on March 29, 1969, "the savagely beaten body of Robert "Bobby" Harris Jr., a well-heeled, 49-year-old black civic leader and politically connected nightclub owner in Paterson" was found.

His skull was crushed. His spine was broken. The ribs on the right side of his body were caved in. Nine ribs on the left side were fractured, as was his right leg. For good measure, Harris was shot once in the chest. He was in a kneeling position, with his ankles tied to the back of his head with wire. He had disappeared three months earlier. 
Even before his body was found, police suspected that Harris...  had been killed in a turf dispute with rival gangsters. When his remains were recovered, however, evidence that Harris had been tortured stumped them.

Federal prosecutors in Newark told a federal judge that Fiumara was responsible.

“We received information from confidential informants that Tino had done it and had driven the trussed up body around to make sure everyone knew that the [Genovese] family was very serious about its control of all the bookmaking business in New Jersey,” said one law enforcement source.



173 comments:

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  2. What happened in the cemetery? The time you were supposed to get killed?

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  3. Dominick, what time period, and why do you think more and more "guys" are turning their back on omerta, and going against their constituents, why and when did this fundamental breakdown happen?
    Also, how did your family and relatives feel about you rolling over for and going to Team America"

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  4. Dom, how many guys on crime families follow the old italian tradicion? Some man still shout "Vaffanculo!" or "Madonna!" when angry?

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  5. Who do you believe out of the list of current top guys (Mancuso, DiFiore, Santora, Rabito, etc.) has the ability to steer the Bonnanos back on track?

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  6. Who was at your making ceremony and where did it take place, what was it like?
    Also, how was Anthony Aiello's?
    Why did he get made so young?

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  7. Was wondering if you knew my cousin silvio crazy sal salome from the colombos..he was in wild bill cutolos crew?

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  8. What the hell happened to you in Florida?

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  9. Mr. Cicale,

    What percentage of your profits did you have to kick up to the boss? Also, how much do family members give to the boss at Christmas?

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  10. Ed,
    Nicky came to my real estate office informing me that his father sent him and if it was ok that he speak with me. Because of the respect I had for Quit Dom, I allowed the request.
    We stepped outside, I asked Nicky how could I help him. Nicky started yelling and using profanity. As this junkie continued, I told him to clam down and stop being disrespectful, but Nicky forgot one thing, I was the gangster.
    As this out of control junkie continued, I had enough, so I backhanded him across the face. Snapping Nicky's head back, he stumbled into a row of parked cars. After a few seconds he regained his balance then started running towards his park car yelling to the passenger in the car, "get the gun."
    It took me a second when I realized what was coming out of Nicky's mouth along with the blood. Quickly I put my legs into gear and started running to catch up with this out of control junkie.
    As Nicky opened the car door, I was now right behind him and Nicky now got hit with a bunch of punched. I would not allow him to gain control of his motor skills for I threw punch after punch keeping him dazed, so dazed that I started to slam the car door on his shins. With my both hands now on the car door, I began opening and closing the door on Nicky's lower legs, he was trapped and in a lot of pain.
    I snapped out of my rage when I finally heard the passenger in the car yelling, "Dom, there is no gun in this car."
    Finally hearing that I stopped and back up. Watching Nicky trying to regain his composure all he was looking to do was get the hell out of Dodge.
    As this junkie sped away, I noticed that Middletown Rd. was filled with nosy people, so I got into my car and immediately left the scene.
    As luck would have it Vinny Jr. pulled up just before the police arrived. Vinny wasn't more than five feet from his car as the first of many police officers arrived on the scene.
    Now with that said, it was easy just to suspect that Vinny Jr. was involved but that was the furtherest from the truth. Why should the news reporters really look into who was involved when they had a huge story that would sell news papers.

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  11. No, sorry but I do not recall.

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  12. Interesting Question, but that's coming up in the next ebook with Ed.

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  13. Mancuso, is a blow job.... Difiore, don't know.... Santora, is a theif & scumbag... and Rabito, just wants to be around and enjoy life...

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  14. Isaac ChirieleisonDec 22, 2014, 3:25:00 PM

    1) What really happened to the Gallo crew after Crazy Joe Blond death, i mean what happened to the crew Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo?

    2) Who are the acting boss, under boss,consiglieri and capos of the current Bonanno family?

    3) What crew or is running the current former Profaci/Colombo family?

    4) Is really Domenico Cefalù the current Gambino boss? or it is Frank Cali?

    5) Who is currently running the Luciano/Genovese family?

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  15. Mr. Cicale,
    To the best of your knowledge, what is the status of the Cosa Nostra in Detroit. Did you have any dealing there during your time with the Bonnanos?

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  16. Dom will answer this one on Friday, Herbie...

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  17. Dom will answer this one on Friday, AJ.

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  18. Dom will answer this one on Friday, Johnny Boy!

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  19. I know that is a cop out -- but what can I say.... Except, and please forgive me for this, "Sorry Charlie..."

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  20. Ed, thank you for choosing my question(s).
    Also, don't forget, one year ago tomorrow, December 23, Vito Rizzuto passed away.
    Out of respect for whom really was the greatest boss of the modern area, please put up an interesting story and or article up about Vito. Thank you, and I'm hope you've been enjoying my replies here.

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  21. Mr. Cicale, first let me say it is an honor and a privilege to be able to get your insight from your point of view on these questions, and I thank you for answering them. That being said, I understand that there are a lot of questions being asked, and I understand if you cannot get to mine, that is fine, I am just happy to read your answers to these other questions. The questions I wanted to ask you, however are, 1. I know Joe Gallo was with the Profaci/Colombo family, and that you were with the Bonanno's so if you don't know the answer to this one then it's no problem, but I have always heard that it was Joe Gallo and and another unknown individual who whacked Albert Anastiasia while he was getting a shave at the Park Sheraton Hotel, was it Joe Gallo really one of the gunmen?

    2. I know most of the cosa nostra action is over on the east coast, but I have always wondered about the west coast, now I know historically the west coast crime families were in a way looked down upon by the east coast families, like the Dragna family etc. But I have always wondered what the current state of the west coast families are now according to this picture, which I know is pretty old, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/CommissionChart1963.jpg
    It says that a Mr. Cerrito is the boss of San Jose, and a Mr. Licata is the boss is Los Angeles, now I know this image is pretty old but I have always been very curious as to where these Las Angeles and San Jose families are today.

    My final question 3. How much was Joe Bonanno's son, Bill Bonnano respected within the family, did he have a lot of clout like his old man? Or was he sort of looked down upon? Thank you very much for you're time Mr. Cicale, and I apologize for the length of this message and these questions

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  22. Do a lot of members use drugs to drown out the voice in the back of your mind that never stops saying, "This isn't right!"?

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  23. Who were some of the heavy hitters in the bronx during the time of your reign? i have heard about Wahoo Mancuso holding weight but I'm not sure if he has any relation to Mikey the nose, do you have any info on him?

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  24. Dear Dom, When you decided to cooperate, how did the federal government treat you? Considering that the next congress session will most likely be focused on criminal justice reform, what do you think should be changed about our criminal justice system here in the usa?

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  25. Appreciated and Merry Christmas.

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  26. Please be a man and stop sucking up to a murderer. It's nice he's answering questions for us
    but enough with this Mr. Cicale crap. He's a street guy not the president.

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  27. It's nice to see you beat him with your fists and
    didn't use the tough guy with a gun routine. Too
    many young guys today have no knuckles and
    only know the tough guy with a gun routine.

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  28. Hey dom, what do you think we should change within our criminal justice system?

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  29. Be quiet, Mongo.

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  30. To a real Don, R.I.P vito

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  31. Be quiet, what are we schoolboys

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  32. I am old school, I do not need a gun or a knife to prove myself. Cooperating sickens me but as they say, it is what it is. I am dealing with it, not running or hiding from my choices in life.

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  33. Thank you Charlie, but I want people to express themselves and speak about what's on their mind.

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  34. Lmao...that's on the money, You can add Tommy D to the Nicky description, just add an extra scumbag to it.

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  35. You ever heard of the term, "catch more flies with honey?" I call it being polite. I am quite aware of his past, I just find organized crime and the cosa nostra in particular to be a very fascinating subject, and I am expressing my gratitude in the form of politeness for the answering of my questions, whether they are answered or not. You, however can think of it or call it whatever you like. I mean what the fuck do you want me to do, call the guy a fuckin' asshole? C'mon now.

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  36. Why don't u talk about the family's u ruined. U have no Honor what so ever the man with the honor is sitting in a hole in a SUPER MAX and his name is V B you are a mutt and nothing else

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  37. Ed, one year ago today, December 23, Vito Rizzuto passed away, the greatest boss of the modern era. While in prison is son, father, and brother in law all murdered, what does Vito do after 8 years in prison, Vito comes out firing in his last 14 months of his life! Vito was truly the "Two B's" you need to be a great boss "brilliant and Brazen" Vito Rizzuto, in the mist of all the gunfire, he does a natural death due to cancer. Truly a "O'henry Ending"

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  38. Why doesnt mafia guys abuse "tor net" for selling illegal stuff / drugs? Are there any modern age rackets in use at american mafia that you know of? (besides extort, loanshark, gambling, prostitution etc)

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  39. It's easy to claim honor when it's never been tested.yours has been tested and you failed just go away live like the RAT that u are

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  40. you knew the life you were getting into,you wanting to be a street guy,you knew what the consequences were..if you want to be a gangster,be a 100% gangster..don't rat,go to jail like a fuckin man and at least have your pride and dignity you piece of garbage..your a rat lowlife and that's that..I hate the rats that come back to the neighborhood and still think their tough guys,you have the FBI the cops etc on your side of course your going to be a tough guy..thank god I go to work everyday and didn't have to worry about trash garbage pails like yourself!

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  41. First, thank you for taking the time to visit our little corner of the internet. Second, those guys in our little corner that are talking shit, fuck em, they'd all flip too. Now then, why do you think there are more higher ranked turncoats in the past 20-or-so years than in the "heyday" years of Cosa Nostra? (I've always wondered why a boss would flip knowing full well they'll never see the light of day anyway, a la Joe Massino.)

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  42. Interested in this one myself as I live in FL.

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  43. I'm not gonna debate you on your post, its not my business, but what I will say is this, whether a guy cooperates or not, if he has heart and is a tough guy, that doesn't change. Most wise guys are fake toughguys and in reality wouldn't stab a roast beef..my point is this whether anyone agrees or not about cooperating is one thing, but in my opinion and I've never met dc, but he obviously wasn't a mutt and I think if he sat on Tremont ave on a milkcrate in the open 99% of so called touguys would dog it and not say a word to him, and that's a fact. Whether you agree, disagree, like or dislike the guy, it's easy to be a tough guy on line..in my opinion the guy obviously did plenty of work and is a legit tough guy and as a gambling man..my moneys on him!

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  44. Since you flipped, how hard is going about your everyday life? Even though you did what you had to do, I know it must of killed to go against people you considered to be your brother. Has it gotten any easier for you? Or is it still unreal?

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  45. I knew Dom years ago and he was no mutt, he was a very likable respectful guy who was tough and always had his friends backs. Not saying I agree with him cooperating but just saying he was well liked in the bronx

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  46. Don't have to be a tough guy to beat a 100 pound junkie do ya ?? Old school means you do the crime, you do the time.. those are the real tough guys...Guy's that enjoy the perks of the life but cant do the time for their crimes and give up all their friends instead is hardly an old school tough guy...Just the opposite !!

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  47. Dom, as an organized criminal operating in the modern times of the 21st centry, how easy or difficult was it to obtain firearms in the biggest restrictive city of guns in the usa?

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  48. Now he's gotta take bullshit from a guy like me! LOL!!

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  49. Lol could be worse right?

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  50. I am butting in but Dom will still be here to tell you what he thinks. The rest of the Friends of Ours blog quote offers an opinion on this:he old school guys like to pretend their generation of mobsters were supposed men of honor who remained true to the code of silence. However, most of those old timers never were put in a position to betray omerta because they did not face the same clampdown from law enforcement as today's young bucks. It's easy to claim honor when it's never been tested.

    For decades the mob was the fourth branch of city governments across the country, and its rackets were protected and its messes were ignored. Indeed, even on the rare occassions when indictments were brought against mobsters, the judicial system was notoriously lenient with them.

    Mobsters now face real heat since the feds stepped up its game and pushed the local authorities aside, and even the old geezers probably would rat if they were still in the game today.

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  51. I agree with that 100%.

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  52. Amen to that

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  53. How about Sammo or sammy is he the real deal?

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  54. Mr Cicale,

    Is your biggest regret, getting into the life, or hurting friends & family after you decided to cooperate?

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  55. Dom, If Vinny did not betray you, would you be taking it on the chin? Does it also bother you that the bosses view guys like you as expendable assets?

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  56. So very true. The only real tough guy is Vinny Gorgeous.

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  57. Thank you for the complement and encouragement. Enjoy your Holidays.... I truly respect your opinion. Since you feel so strongly about it, go out and chase all the RATS out of the neighborhood....

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  58. My biggest regret was befriending Vinny and Bruno...

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  59. So true, but that junkie disrespected me. If he was a 100 lbs or 500 lbs I would of did the same thing.
    Old school is no longer in the life.
    I did a total of 20 years in prison and out of the 20, ten years for a crime I never committed.
    I had no intensions of ever cooperating until I was ordered by Vinny that I would be taking the witness stand in our case.
    YES!!!! That's correct, Vinny was going to place me on the witness stand. So my friend, either way I would of been labeled a RAT....
    STILL YOU ARE CORRECT..... NO EXCUSES.....

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  60. DAVID, you must be a real tuff guy... Lol Love you to pal....

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  61. Correct, VB is a stand up guy who caused this entire case because he wanted to throw me under the bus talking about me killing people.... You tell me who is the mutt... Funny, Vinny is extremely sharp and knows you never talk about murders especially when you get away with them... CASE CLOSED....

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  62. You are supposed to kick up 10% of all illegal proceeds. At Christmas time anywhere from $1000 to $100,000 it all depends.

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  63. The murder case my father's friend ratted me out and the drug case I was set up by the DEA.
    They offered me a deal to drop all the trumped up charges, but I would have to rat out my friends. I took it on the chin and did ten years for a crime I did not commit.

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  64. I do not have a clue about Detroit nor did I have any illegal dealing there, but I did have a good friend of mine who is a jeweler in Detroit.

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  65. Thank you, I will have a response on your questions shortly.

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  66. If u and me were in a room together. I don't want to sound like a tuff guy as u said. But I would rip your eyes balls out and play marbles with them. Got it mutt

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  67. Bruno brought u around you are a mutt nothing more nothing less in for a penny in for a pound you can fool some people by blaming V B but real men do real things. Wooden ships and iron men till the end.

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  68. Hey DC did you ever eat at Bamonte in Williamsburg?

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  69. Of course I would have taken it on the chin.
    It was a combination of Vinny, Michael and Bruno. I would have to say Michael actually put the icing on the cake by sending me $3,500 for Christmas, when the year before of my arrest I collected from all my guys well over $300,000.
    What Michael did was smack me in the face, so look who's laughing now.

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  70. Tough guy yes, but in the end he threw me under the bus with his BIG MOUTH.....

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  71. What do you want a gold star just fucking go away there's guys that are never coming home because of u don't ever call your self a gangster or a tough guy u ruined family's took fathers from there children how do you look in the mirror oh I know there's nothing there to see in the first place. Mutt

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  72. It hurt to realize my brother's turned on me by bankrupting me for over seven million dollars before I decided to cooperate.

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  73. There's not one thing about you being old school unless u mean old school like joe valachi you are a mutt.

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  74. Thank you for keeping it real. It still bothers me that I cooperated and dealing with the consequences.

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  75. Always Dom, take care bro...........Anthony

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  76. Thanks man, I remember when you left the bronx and then we heard you got jammed up down there in a fucked up situation.

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  77. Why did V B wanted to take out Patty from the Bronx

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  78. Good question, Patty was always trying to make Vinny look bad.

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  79. That is something I should've noted in the book... Christmas time is really really important to guys. In my first conversation Dom was bitching about Christmas money, only getting around 3 grand (I was like, shit, I'll take 3 grand!) But this is a sore spot for him -- I am a firsthand witness. Honestly, I think this was a major reason why he flipped -- Christmas money! Am I exaggerating? Yes -- but he has mentioned "Christmas money" a LOT.....Merry Christmas Ronen....

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  80. Good question.... I am going to make sure he answers this because I'd like to know......

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  81. You don't have to worry about Dom - he's NOT in the Mafia anymore...

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  82. Of course but you have everyone denying they never did drugs. Think about it, that life goes hand and hand.

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  83. Wahoo made a name for himself in his heyday. The most powerful and feared person in the Bronx is so undercover that I am not nor will ever expose him. I have to much love for the man....

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  84. David, I don't know who you are -- but I hope the opportunity to vent on here helps in some small way. I don't know if Dom's actions hurt you personally or not, but I think the guy you should really hate is the one that broke the Bonanno family's silence -- Dom joined the only family without a rat since its inception in 1930?.... The first guy who flipped started the chain -- and when a guy like Massino flips, what is left? The boss knows everything and the Feds know how to work people. Dom was one of many rats -- and he was viewed as expendable...

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  85. It's always extremely easy to buy anything. Remember, money talks especially in the streets.

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  86. I really don't think so but I may have.

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  87. TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Not many "rats" make themselves available to blogs .... they are hiding in the midwest under an assumed name.... Why am I interjecting? It is my blog, and Dom is my friend... If you are the taxpaying citizens I assume many of you to be, let's take your thinking to its logical conclusion... Mobsters stop ratting... Police make less cases, maybe.... So maybe the mob gets more powerful and soon you are paying extra to buy anything because they own all the trucks delivering the goods -- and they control other things you don't see (you never see it, but it takes money out of your wallet)..... bottom line -- unless you're benefiting in some way from organized crime why would you applaud its efforts? Do you despise the notion of "betrayal"? OK, then go kill everyone in your life who betrayed you.... Or just beat them up... or give them a nasty pinch.... Most of us have been betrayed by lots of people -- could be over something small or something major,... Or if you're a guy who lives vicariously through the "exciting" lives of gangsters then maybe you should ponder your personal values.

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  88. Johnny, good questions...
    I cannot speak for others but I hate what I was forced to do. Loyalty is a two way street and me so called brothers that I killed for left me out to dry.
    At the end of the day I have a lot of family members that do not bother with me. I am okay with that but when I was on top it was a different story.
    I will add this note: Vinny, Michael, Vinny Jr., Vinny's wife, Robert Van Zandt and Bruno fucked me so bad before I cooperated that every high ranking Mafia in all the crime families were aware of it. Even Quite Dom said, "IT'S A FUCKING DISGRACE WHAT YOUR CRIME FAMILY IS DOING TO YOU!"

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  89. I guess nobody gets it Ed since u want to stick up for him bottom line wooden ships and iron men u don't rat u don't destroy family's you are in for a penny your in for a pound u don't RAT he was never a tough guy deep down he always been a rat and now he needs shut up,and stop making excuses for his actions.

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  90. I know a lot of guys both in and from that life. I know people who lost a father, a brother, a son. I grew up listening to my grandfather mourn the "disappearance" of his best friend for decades.... he didn't live long enough to hear the news that his friend's remains were finally found in a lot in Queens. None of these losses were caused by rats or prison, they were viciously murdered by these iron men who wanted their action. Say what you want about rats and Dom.... but honor among thieves? You gotta be kidding me. No such thing ...Merry Christmas to you and yours, David.

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  91. Sorry Ed you missed the whole point we know the life is full of treachery that's what i mean when I say in for a penny in for a pound your name and your dignity is all u have in life u should never compromise either. Holidays to u and yours .

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  92. He ran the jersey fraction joseph sammertino

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  93. Dom thanks for answerin me about my cousin crazy sal...i respect what your doing answering our questions..way i look at it once joey massino flipped fuck it every man for himself..merry christmas to you and your family..did you kmow anthony tony checeto from red hook supposed to be the big boss there..he is gaspipe cassos son..i probably spelled his name wrong..merry christmas

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  94. I meet patty few times and he always had a tough crew around him I think he refused to see VB has boss and didn't want to answer to him

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  95. Keeping it real, I was the governments star until certain prosecutors took control... A tremendous amount of bullshit went on and there was time when I was strongly considering pulling my agreement, it's all going to come to light real soon...

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  96. Oh that Sammy, I did not care for him to much. He was a loud mouth.

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  97. Of course, but many years ago Patty mess up a hit and they were all arrested because of it. Actually Patty tried opening the rear door of the car so he could run, but the dummy forgot to disengage the child safety door latch. Lol That's a fact....

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  98. Rai, I love your second question, PERFECT!!!!
    Those were Vinny's words all the time... "WE DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT A KILLING ONCE WE GET AWAY WITH IT... IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!"
    Yet answer me this one, why did Vinny talk in jail out loud not a whisper, "DOMINICK KILLED HIM..." WHY??????

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  99. Dom, Do you think your former crime associates are cooperating with the govt with regards to those al queda/jihadist terreorists? I mean wouldnt that explain the reason why the fbi cut its resources dedicated to your former "brothers"? Do you know of any modern deals that would implicate the feds and mobsters cooperating with each other like they did in ww2?

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  100. All u trash can rats say I would of done my time if this that and the other thing, please no matter how bad someone supposedly fucked u, u do ur time a take revenge like a man, u disgrace to ur self and family.

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  101. I'll give ya credit for coming on here and responding to most all of the posts, even the non brown nosing ones !!

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  102. Was Vinny's wife a piece of ass or was she a piece of ass?

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  103. What was your favorite score?

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  104. Tell us about a heist you botched.
    Everybody has one.

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  105. What's Christmas like for mob guys in the can?
    Merry Christmas by the way.

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  106. Thanks Dom, really appreciate it.

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  107. Dominick, the real problem with Vinny was his ego was bigger than his brain. In reality, he wasn't boss material, as the mistakes he made were novice like, not of a supposed boss. He may have been a good street guy, but to be boss you need special unique qualities besides being a street guy, a businessman, diplomat, decision making, and a great leader of men. That's what made certain bosses great, and that wasn't Vinny. Remember this, Vinny is where he is for the rest of his life, because of his own big mouth. Basically, Vinny ratted on himself. That's the way I see it, and I have a pretty good view.

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  108. Thank you for answering the questions, and so well. I surely don't agree with what you did, but it was a decision you didn't make alone, you were pushed into by the "wrongs of your own guys" Admittedly, I don't know what I would have done under the same set of circumstances, but remember this "self-preseravation is man's number one instinct" Surely, we both agree on that.
    Many people here on this blog have called you "names of negativity" Myself, I will not call you anything other than your real name, as respect is a two way street.
    Thank you for your time and candidness.

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  109. Mike, great question about why would Joe Massino flip, because the Fed's let Massino's wife keep millions of dollars in ill gotten gains, and I believe two homes. The Fed's could have grabbed everything and left his wife broke. Hope this helped.

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  110. Do u think italian mob is still the most powerful organization in nyc or the russian and Albanians past them

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  111. Nigga please! Lol, I hate computer tough guys..Be a gentleman, the guy is answering questions, if you don't like him that's you're opinion. But you and me both know it's easy to play computer cowboy and talk like a tough guy on here..Real tough guys don't talk, they do! So be nice sonny boy!!!

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  112. Frankie coppa couldn't do time and started the ball rolling, it made Richie (mulberry) cantarella shit himself and when he flipped the writing was on the wall.he triggered the domino effect and anybody with a brain who was around realized Joe was no longer the boss of the Massino Family..He became the Captain of the Titanic and it was just a matter of time. Also, Joe stepped on his dick by having George from Canada clipped it was a total bumblefuck , He gave his loyalty to a junkie from Staten island TG and made a bad mistake..and yes Vinny B or gorgeous if that's what he's called was and is a tough guy, but totally put his men in the soup by talking to Joe or anybody else about a piece of work that implicated other people..it should have Never been spoken about ever..He was careless with other peoples lives and that's not a good leader .He fucked up..period!

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  113. I respect your honesty, I don't know him personally. However, I do know of him and I was personally told in maybe 2004 by someone I respect , although he usta refer to him as Donnie, he said Donnie took a fed case in Florida on the chin and was a legit tough guy and a shooting star in the family. So In my opinion, he obviously is a legit convict and didn't cooperate for the reason 99% do (because they're afraid to go to jail) He got put in an ugly spot and was getting thrown to the wolves..He obviously made a decision based on things that we could only know if we were in his shoes. I think the guy got fucked and decided that he wasn't going to stay loyal to people that showed disloyalty first..The bottom line it came down to one thing...Survival!

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  114. Yo David.....Talk nice and by the way, Go home and get your shinebox! With all due respect and what's do is none..You sound like a straight up fag and your talking tough to a guy through a computer..it's truly unimpressive and a punk move!!!

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  115. Dominick Cicale AKA DCDec 25, 2014, 8:16:00 AM

    MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE....
    I would like to thank everyone for interacting on topics concerning myself and the Mafia.
    I am going to have Ed close down the questions before the day is out, so if anyone has some last minute questions you can get them in now. However, do not worry, we are working on doing a live video feed along with live interaction every week for one hour.
    I am looking forward to it especially with killers like DAVID GIZEWSKI who is a real MAN.... BUT... A real man or even average mans who are about something in the street or are simple working men know you keep your mouth shut and do what you have to do... Not make idle threats.... Which leads me to believe that David is really a woman venting...
    If that's not the case and I'm wrong which I doubt, then David you really need anger management classes....

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  116. It sad but it's nice, we always make the best out of it. Merry Christmas to you as well.

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  117. Charlie,
    There was supposedly over $700,000 in a home. Long story shot the guys I sent in were more concerned about leaving, so after about 10 minutes they left. Come to find out a few days later they were inches from the money all along.

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  118. My favorite score was taking a guy for 45K and leaving him with enough money for tolls.

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  119. NO... The Fed cut resources concerning the Mafia because the threats with terrorism. Terrorists target everyone not street people, so I have to give props to the government for reallocating the resources.

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  120. Thank you, but I love when people keep it real. Everyone is entitled to there feeling.

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  121. Vinny had the John Gotti ego. Yes Vinny made some huge mistakes and caused us to get arrested... AGREED....
    But I truly know Vinny was the right person for that position and would of made some mistakes along the way but had all the right qualities.
    YES, Vinny knew exactly what he was doing when he was caught on tape talking about me killing someone. I will go into that during our live video feed that is coming soon.

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  122. I always felt Joe was a piece of shit, especially with the things he did in and out of prison.
    As far as leaving his family broke that would of never happened. Joe is worth till this day well over 20 million dollars. Before Joe flipped the government was only taking the most 12 million mostly in property.

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  123. JEFFARI, YOU ARE SO RIGHT... SMART!

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  124. yeah, you think people have your back no matter what like you have there's, then they do that..so fuck it, whats the point of protecting people that won't help you

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  125. What a joke your right I'm a woman I make no idle threats I wouldn't want your new crew team America to come after me Dom u know that I know and the people no u are a spineless coward and any time u want to come see me I'll give my home address and phone # and we can see who the woman is and who leaves with a dress on mutt

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  126. No need for violence anymore... I have turned my life around... I am, TRULY BLESSED.... MERRY CHRISTMAS...

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  127. Dom and Ed good luck with the book
    love reading the ques and answers. As for the computer tough guys very comphy to talk shit when ur not eye to eye with someone lol Anyway guys Merry Christmas Dom and Ed.philly

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  128. Yourright mr Dominick Cicale AKA Blow job

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  129. What was the rizzuto mobs power like within the bonnanos towards the end? Also any tips for an aspring LEGIT business man? I know you done well in the legit world over the years

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  130. No need for violence. Mrs Dominick Cicale AKA free hole

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  131. Alright... I apologize for these questions. Who would play you in a film? What was so intriguing about Gorgeous that you went under his wing?

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  132. I would have to say the Italians, but of course I would say that. lol

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  133. I dont know u ski may be Dom does u have ur picture there with a young kid if somebody kidnapped or tryed to harm him there isnt anything u wouldnt do to protect him including rating to get him back never say never my friend espcialy if its to save the life of true family member all that other shit goes out the window thats a real tough guy protecting ur self and family that made guy shit goes right out the window i was an associate had more power than made clowns its about money ski and real familly enough said. Philly

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  134. Stop acting like a tough guy online..you sound like a stoned cold punk!

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  135. Merry Christmas brother!

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  136. So what if he was a 100 lb junkie..when someone on the street fucks with you there are no rules..or the rules are they could be 8 to 80 walking or wheeling.You do what u gotta do, period!

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  137. The reason why I ask is bc my mom's cousin was Cesare Bonventre and that fat f--k had him killed bc of his up and coming in power I don't understand y would u kill loyal people that are good earners and not afraid to do dirty work! He was a true gangster

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  138. I gotta tell ya, You speak like a gentleman and a class act. I'm rooting for you.

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  139. With 20 years of jail-time under my belt I've dealt with a lot of wan a be so called cell gangsters like you....when locked down, were so tough, yet face to face they would never bust a grape.
    If this is your picture, I wasn't so off, you do look like a cross between a woman and a man.
    At your age with one slap you could fall and hurt yourself. LOL life is short and too precious for me, to continue with responding on having to defend myself from punks like you who are only a smoke screen.
    I don't hide the murders I committed nor the many other acts of violence I did, but unless you were side by side with me and in my circle you would not be so quick to comment the stupidity you have.
    So grandpa/grandma??? Is your anger about me being a punk, because at your old age when do you mature in life???

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  140. Merry Christmas to you as will.

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  141. Thank you, even though it's difficult at times. But I am still human and a work in progress.

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  142. No need for apologies. I know and understand peoples feelings but being a tough guy and a fake tough guy is another story.
    It's funny even with everything that happened I've learned a lot from Vinny and that I hold dear.

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  143. No Philly, I have no clue who the old man/woman is, but it's really easy to talk shit hiding behind a computer.
    The funny part of it all and from my experiences in my life guys that talk a lot of shit at the end of the day when the shit hits the fan they are the first ones that run to the law... Yet I am the RAT... Lol
    PEACE MY BROTHER!!!!

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  144. Sorry about your lose.... I heard a ton of good things about Cesare, he was very well liked.
    YES, that fat FUCK, JM killed all the men in the Bonanno crime family. Joe was extremely insecure and felt threaten when someone was well respected and liked.

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  145. Glad I am not the only one that feels that way...

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  146. YES, no matter how many doors get slammed in your face get more aggressive and eventually that one door will open.
    I no longer have the connection I once had but I am more determined to succeed than ever. It's a lot of hard work and if you are willing to put in the time you will always succeed.

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  147. Ed, I think it was a very nice gesture by Dominick to come on here. But the abuse dished out by some is uncalled for, especially by one David Gizewski. I am asking for and calling for a ban or block of David Gizewski, and any others that abuse Dominick. I don't agree with how Dominick ended his status in his criminal life, but I would never treat Dominick like some have here. Dominick did what he had to do for his own well being and safety. Only Dominick knows how he feels. Ed, let's treat Dominick with dignity, the same way you'd want to get treated, by getting rid of the problem child(s) here.
    Thank you. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.

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  148. what most people dont get unless you.ve been in a life or death situation or dealt with these piranha in this bussiness he or she will never get it. Also if i screw up ill do my time but im not going to jail for some idiot guy in my crew and go down because if his stupidity and big mouth not gonna happen. hope to meet u someday Dom. philly

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  149. Thank you pal, it's always easy to assume and say things when looking from the outside and haven't lived in that inner circle.
    We are all guilty of that at times.
    NOTE: I respect the fact that you might not like what I did or how I did it, but thank you for not being disrespectful and choosing the proper words.

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  150. Philly, for not being in MY inner circle, you get the point.
    YES, it would be my pleasure to one day meet, maybe you will be the first one on our weekly show!!!

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  151. touch base with ed he knows me and we vould talk agter the holidays i got some free time coming upstay safe see ya soon .philly

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  152. PERFECT & you as well...

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  153. Hilarious!!! I like that... like a Woody Allen film....

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  154. Nah, you're alright brother, I've come to a place in my life, that I ain't about people pleasing and being a fake dog like David gid (whatever the fuck his name is) I keep it real from the gate and I might know a little more about you then you might think and I give you props you're a humble dude, yet a real man. I got ur back brother!

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  155. So true because that 100 lbs Junkie or that 80 year old man can easily pull that trigger and put a bullet in your head.

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  156. Nit at all, he's a straight up punk!

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  157. I could not of said it better. Thank you for keeping it real.

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  158. Johnny, thank you much respected....

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  159. You're starting to get on my nerves, I'd love to give you a slap, you punk!

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  160. Charlie, please, Angelia was a true wife to her husband and has his back 1000%. I will and always have to respect that.

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  161. Hey Bo, when we have lunch bring David god, I got a Xmas present for him!

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  162. I notice that Wikipedia entries seem to change after I write certain stories. I'm never credited, though I know entries are rewritten based on my content. Last time I looked, it noted (without a single footnote) that once Joe Massino was known to be a rat, no one recognized Vinny B as boss. But that's when Vinny B was made official boss. And Massino NEVER MADE VINNY HIS ACTING BOSS, VINNY JUST TOOK IT. SO WIKIPEDIA IS INCORRECT.... to me the fact that Mancuso is considered boss seems to support the notion Vinny B is still the true shot caller because Mikey Nose is from the Bronx... I'm sure the Queens guys want it but that was Massino's home base where I believe the most guys flipped or were arrested.....anyway if the Wikipedia guy is on here reading maybe you could fix the story for the public even if you don't credit this blog for anything..... also Massino failed two lie detector tests....

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  163. Ed, you are correct and I know that for a fact....

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  164. U must be another rat they all stick together hearsay 214 or maybe a cop two and the same

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  165. Garrett, the only true family is your biological family and one or two friends. That still have my back no matter what!!!

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  166. YES sir, but no money in hand... Lol

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  167. Yeah I'll show you my badge after I bend you over, you fake tough guy.

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  168. Hi Johnny i agree' Ski has a right to his opinion about guys that turn thats fine and i dont know Dom but im peasure he agrees Ski should say his piece and move on. If he cant join the conversation with inteligent intelect about the book or life then he should be blocked. And Ski be carefull what u wish for u might meet a turncoat one day and not even know it start ur tyraid and get a fine ass kicking then after that i think u get the point. As for hating rats theres enough of u on hear pass the buvkey around fill it up start u own blog and u can bash anyone u want but first let me know if u fill the bucket up i dont know any of u but ur probably cheap F---s let me stop while im ahead. Philly

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  169. Lol... Don't even waist your time and stoop to that jerk offs level.
    I ALREADY FOUND OUT HE FROM CANADA... STILL HAVE THOSE STREE CONNECTIONS....

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  170. Lol, thanks for checking me

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