2011 Report: Did Mobster Order Own Son's Death?

Some of you may have already heard or read this story. I assume many of you have not...

From the MailOnline, which published this in April 2011: It is a Mafia murder mystery that has remained unsolved for years.

But investigators finally believe they might have got to the bottom of what happened to family mobster Nicholas Cirillo, who vanished seven years ago and has not been seen since - his death may have been ordered by his own father.

Genovese gangster Nicholas disappeared on Mothers' Day 2004, two weeks after an altercation in the Bronx with fellow mob man Vincent Jr. Basciano and Dominick Cicale, part of the infamous Bonanno family.



The 41-year-old's body has never been found and his father, high-ranking Genovese mob boss Dominick Cirillo, known as 'Quiet Dom', is said to have refused to cooperate with police in trying to trace him.

Now it has been suggested that Quiet Dom may ruthlessly have ordered his son's murder, after a tape implicating him was played at the Brooklyn Federal Court trial of Joseph Massino, the Mafia's highest-ranking supergrass [a Britishism for "rat."].

The court heard a conversation in January 2005 between Massino and Vincent Basciano, or 'Vinny Gorgeous', the father of the gangster Nicholas was said to have rowed with in the Bronx.

Massino secretly recorded the discussion for the police.

When asked who 'whacked' the mobster's son, Nicholas, Basciano can be heard saying: 'That came from Dom, that came from Dom.'

When pressed in court by prosecutor Taryn Merkl to explain the comments, Massino said: 'I understand that he's telling me Quiet Dom killed his son.'

The footage also shows Massino gesturing with his hand like a gun while asking Basciano: 'Do we have anything to do with that [Nicholas Cirillo's murder]?'

Basciano replies: 'Absolutely not. C'mon.'

Basciano is then heard telling Massino that he met with Dominick Cirillo about the altercation with Nicholas. He said the Genovese family 'came back and apologised to me.'

It is thought Nicholas's death would have been ordered because of the fracas in the Bronx two weeks before his disappearance -  assaulting a made member of the Mafia carries the penalty of death.

While it seems incomprehensible that a father would order the murder of his son because of this rule, the two were estranged and, Massino explained to the court, Mafia codes are taken very seriously.

Massino described how in his days as a mobster, he gave the order to kill Bonanno capo Gerlando Sciascia even though they got on well - because Sciascia had murdered the son of a made man in Canada. [Anyone know anything about this?]

Nicholas's disappearance should have led to ramifications from his family - as the son of a Mafia boss, killing him would carry a death penalty.

Bonanno turncoat James Tartaglione said if you kill a Mafioso's son, 'you're liable to start a war between families.' But after Nicholas Cirillo vanished, there was no war.

Quiet Dom, who earned his nickname because he likes to keep a low-key profile, has refused to cooperate with police investigating the disappearance of his son.



Comments

  1. Ed, Massino is lying, George from Canada didn't kill a made guy from Canada's son, never happened. Joe Lopresti was killed in 1992, but his dad wasn't a made guy, and that hit was agreed to by Vito and George because Lopresti, was doing his own shit and was out of control as he was high all the time. Lopresti was very close to Vito and George, but became a huge liability, and they said good bye to the liability. Ed, always remember this " a rat is a liar" they will say anything.

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  2. Ed, Quiet Dom is a stone cold mobster, the Gambino Family before is own family would be the rule and Dom lives by the code. No question in my mind he did his kid. His son was an out of control guy that had a huge ego and a big mouth. One word "liability" and you know what happens "in the life" when you become a liability, again, it's good bye.

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  3. For a guy who acts like he's in the know you got the wrong family there buddy.

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  4. Maybe the nick cirillo hit was the murder that vinny jr made his bones with.

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  5. This is another lesson the mob learned. You cant kill a guy and bury him underneath the earth because when a guy is facing life, the burial location is the information that would give him a deal. Thats exactly what happened with joe campy and dino calabro. Probably nicks body was cremated and his ashes were spread out over some random location. I dont think you can identify a body or collect dna evidence on ashes, I may be wrong on that.

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  6. Your right,, just a mental error. Knew it, but was watching MNF on ESPN at the sametime.

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  7. Yeah that one hit me in the face... I'd heard about this but didn't actually know it'd been reported.... Turncoats have to be real careful, though, Johnny. Aside from Massino, who failed lie detectors, most of them can lose their 5k if they're caught in a single lie. It's a huge largely unnecessary gamble. Gravano admitted to 19. Based on what happened to Gaspipe when he said Sammy dealt drugs I always wondered whether Sammy told them about that too. Why hide it if you cop to 19 murders? Why would the feds keep the drugs a secret too? Something never added up about that in my view.....

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  8. Interesting..... I think he killed earlier though, before he was made. I've heard he's killed A LOT of people, actually....

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  9. Im pretty sure your new buddy Dom Cicale could answer that question with a vivid description.

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  10. Ed, the reason why Sammy hid the drug dealing from the feds is that when they start with the asset forfiture stuff acquired if your a drug dealer is gone, but if it's other traditional OC crimes and you go into the Witness Protection Program, then you can easily negotiate with the feds about keeping some of your assets, like the fat rat Massino did, as he was able to keep millions. But assets acquired thru drug dealing will get taken from you.

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  11. Everything thing you say Johnny comes straight from Mafia inc or the Sixth Family books, but you write it like its your first hand knowledge. Ive heard you say things like George was a great guy..did you know him? you can break bread with these guys or grow up with there children like i have, i dosent mean u know them or there good people...your defenly not a made guy so thats means if u hade something they wanted they would take it!!! (great guys!!) sorry couldnt hold it in any longer just needed to state my OPINION thats a place you should write from..or maybe you wanna ask Dom Manno first, actually you might not find him hes probably looking for joe massino write now!!! lol what a joke!!!

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  12. GUYS, RELAX.... Vinny Jr. has not killed anyone, that is a FACT not SPECULATION....
    It's not right placing those ACCUSATIONS on someone.
    Dominick Cicale

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  13. GUYS RELAX.... Vinny Jr. has never killed anyone, not as of yet, nor did he have anything to do with the Cirillo hit and that's a FACT....
    Dominick Cicale

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  14. GUYS RELAX.... Vinny Jr. has never killed anyone especially Nick Cirillo. The news reports were unfounded and not true, Vinny Jr. was not even there when I beat the shit out of Cirillo.

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  15. Exactly, I heard you kicked his ass and he had it coming

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  16. I Am The Old SchoolDec 16, 2014, 9:08:00 AM

    Ever hear of Richie the Boot from north Jersey? He used to have a crematorium in his back yard. It's not a lessoned learned. It's the difference between the old school and the new.

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  17. Interesting.... I've got the Boot book but haven't read yet. Life magazine reported about an illicit whisky still on a chicken farm in New Jersey operated by a Bonanno capo (Zicarelli). Guys in the mob have been disappearing since before the Murder Inc days. Lottsa mobsters own funeral parlors, or have access to them. The Rizzutos in Canada. Orena operated or had access to one; he'd supply body bags, according to Al D'Arco. Demeo used the Fountain avenue dump and those bodies were never found .... still the mob can screw up, like anybody. Sonny Red popped up.... but then you have James Hoffa and the guys who've never been found....and never will.

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  18. Nick was killed because of the beef , Vinny wanted it , Dom had it done

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  19. Actually, I don''t read Mob type books, or any books, as I have a very short attention span, but I am a bookmaker, my "protector" is a made guy from GTA, and yes, I knew George from my guy, was in his company over the years on 3 different occasions. And I never said that Manno was looking Massino, I replied to a guy here that said Manno was looking for Massino.
    Please continue to have a great day.

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  20. WOW.... You're a sharp Bronx Kid... Good work... Dick....

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  21. I will not go into detail about what went down. I do not feel bad! It was a nice move, all fingers were pointed at us.

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  22. Wasnt it more that he greenlighted the hit instead of ordering it? Could be wrong.

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  23. I was told from a source that used to be friends with nick cirillo that he would absolutely not do or condone the death of his own son, it sounds ridiculious anyways over an associate.

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  24. good to know, my bad!! wouldnt your protector get pissed if he knew you were on the blogs?? My uncle snapped on me calling me a weazel telling me to keep my info to my self, you ever experience that

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  25. I respect that. I dont want to come off as an asshole to you in any way. If I have, then I apologize. Dom, can you tell us why the feds are housing your former paison and friend vinny sr with those al queda terreorist bastards in adx florence colorado?Do you know the reason why he is still in solitary confinement? For me personally, I would love to hear vinny getting his hands on those scumbags responsible for 9/11.

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  26. So Dom Manno isn't going to honor vito's last wishes on his deathbed? From an outsider prespective, that seems strange considering vito's bloodthirsty quest for vengence. Johnny, hope you had a good year business wise, with this past summer having the world cup and the fall and winter football season. I have a question for you. Do you think that if nj gov chris christie succeeds in legalizing sports betting to nj, will that be considered a major financial loss for you in the long run?

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  27. Question to dc what info did u hear re nick cirilo when you were in the life? Surely there must of been rumours u heard at the time and I'm sure u disclosed these rumours to Feds already. And do you feel guilty about vg? Please enlighten me. Thanks in advance. From a neutral bystander in England.

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  28. He actually responded to that already... look down the comments. The timestamp was two hours before you made your comment.

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  29. I know what exactly happened but I cannot talk about that just yet.
    As for VG, till this day it disturbs me what I did, but loyalty is a two way street. Vinny ordered me that I would testify at our trial, so Vinny would be set free. That's what push me over the edge, for even if I did not cooperate with the Government Vinny would cause me to be labeled a RAT anyway.
    I hope I shed some light on your questions.
    Dominick Cicale

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  30. That's ok Ed, I will be here to answer any questions on this entire topic.

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  31. Anon, what are you talking about? Nick Cirillo was a Junkie and so were the people he stayed with. Furthermore what associate? What was ridiculous was the fact I had to kick his ass up and down Middletown Rd. in the Bronx because he verbally threaten me.

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  32. No apologies necessary, not at all angry, actually entertained...
    Vinny is in ADX because of is continued bullshit, he caused that all by himself. As for the three boys, Joey should of received time served. Steven and Vinny Jr. are another story.
    What kid living off the streets would not to be a made man in the Mafia....

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  33. Funny you actually do come off as an asshole. Because you are an asshole. No disrespect, and I apologize and all and blah blah blah...whatever your real name is, you're an asshole and you know it... email me again "Ronen." You were smart enough to cover your tracks: you're a coward who knows he's not safe. I fully expect you to be on here again....

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  34. You are sharp as a marble, However it wasn't Vinny, It wasn't Qd, it was the butler.

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  35. What's your thoughts on Gino Galestro? He ran with u guys in the bx n I hear he's having a touch time inside

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  36. No thoughts on Galestro?

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  37. Lol, I couldn't resist! It blows my mind what these people say or want to know..Me! I don't wanna know anything that don't concern me..These guys should stay behind their keyboards, because they wouldn't last an afternoon on the street before they wound up in a bag a tricks..lol, it's amazing how fucking clueless most of these computer cowboys are about the life..anyway, all my best to you brother! PP

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  38. Gino, was from Staten Island not the Bronx. Gino was in my crew and answered to me. From what I heard Gino tried to cooperate with the government at one point and was denied.
    That's what I had heard. If you are asking my opinion I believe it to be true...

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