VH1 Mob Wives Series Finale: Will There Be Blood?




Tonight is VH1's Mob Wives series finale.

We finally got a chance to watch last week's episode and came to a realization hypothesis: Renee's baptism plays out, then we cut to a restaurant scene where Natalie DiDonato is providing Drita with proof that supposedly will finish off Natalie Guercio.

Kind of like The Godfather's infamous baptism scene in which Michael Corleone is taking part in the ceremony in a Catholic Church, no? The scene is inter-cut with scenes of the enemies of the Corleone family getting whacked one by one, and is probably one of the most famous scenes in film history (if not history, period.)







This has got to be intentional; how many of you picked up on The Godfather reference?

We were correct in one regard, it seems (unless they pull another rabbit out of the hat).

We've said from the beginning the whole point of this season was to bury Natalie Guercio because she made Renee Graziano look bad last season. As we wrote:

NOTE: We believe Renee did poorly in show testing and that is probably why she's been promoting herself nonstop since the end of season four (it also certainly helps if your sister is, like, the show creator). The current season will be devoted to repairing Renee's image as a raving drug addicted psychotic.... In fact they appear to be loading the cast with anyone they can get their hands on as long as they kiss Renee's ass... (and apparently, we add now, they got Nat D. to play Renee's Luca Brasi.... yes, we know Brasi was killed before he could avenge his Don, but hey we're taking some liberties here, okay?)

Luca Brasi....
We then highlighted a story on a website that sounded too correctly prescient about what was going to happen this year as well, regarding Natalie Guercio.

Not "it looks like" or "it appears that".... Rather, the simple declarative statement that Guercio is going to learn this lesson the hard way.

We'll find out if we were right about this tonight, but judging by the video, we were on the money.... We still, however, hope the show proves us wrong about this because we love the smokin' Nat Guercio....



So.... how many of you picked up on The Godfather reference?

Comments

  1. No offense to anyone one who watches the show but WHO GIVES A SHIT?

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  2. LOL!.....It sounded the same to me but, it's Ed's site!....... You don't even have a cool avatar like Ed. You have a grey oval head an no shoulders like me.
    Also,....... does anyone know if John Gotti would put out a contract on any of his soldiers who DID decide to take a deal?...Just curious what happened to those people?

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  3. I heard he said it to everyone every time he was in jail. You said it happened to one group, I thought. But if I'm mistaken, I apologize.

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  4. Gateon was smart, he switched to the Merlino side, gongs n tommy horse head went from merlino to stanfa, they thought the grass was greener on the other side, look how that ended, gateon just got home from doing his 5 years from the ligambi case with major respect and gongs ended up dead n horse head is in the witness protection program

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  5. Seems like a lot of people suddenly started showing up and leaving comments about me once I started covering the Alite-Gotti story. I know there's one of you out there pretending to be two different people, complete with different personalities. And I know a few other things, too. I'll just say that there is an over inflated opinion about my coverage in the comments section that is not at all reflected in the stats. Also, to my competitors posting on here, I always leave comments as me. I challenge you to reveal your true identities....before I do it for you.....

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  6. Figured that. By Muslims I pretty much assumed we were talking black American militant types rather than ISIS. I wonder if the Brand got involved (AB). Aren't they the official overlords of all white inmates in federal? I remember reading an FBI file from the Freedom of Information Act that the AB was protecting Mafiosi in return for the wiseguys to teach them how to make money in organized crime. Nicky Scarfo was specifically mentioned.

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  7. Why would they pay the blacks for protection rather then the AB? Aren't their racial politics involved with that?

    Mick from Jersey

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  8. Well put Rico .Philly

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  9. Anybody know what Gene's status with the Gambinos will be when he gets out in 3 years?

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  10. Whitey im not sure im assuming but i do know wiseguys in State facilitys who have payed blacks and im sure the same for the AB in other facilitys remember the Guineas are the minority here so i guess it goes by the Sr guinea in charge who gets paid not really sure maybe one of these other guys can explain. I remember hearing Sr Gotti got beat up in the joint in his early days and thought he paid protection to the blacks again thats hearsay never confirmed that i know of Philly

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  11. Nat G Carla F and Drita like to busta nut in each one of them trash mouths. Philly

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  12. Hey RICO I am pretty sure your thinking of Louisiana State Prison which is referred to as Angola by the inmates and public it is situated on an old plantation Im sure FCI Pollack is no walk in the park but it is a medium security joint it was a USP until a few years ago. I may be wrong but I was under the impression that problematic inmates are sent to USP'S. Richie Gotti last I heard was living in Milton PA as he was arrested I am pretty sure for beating up his girlfriend in the fall of 2013 and his son committed suicide not to long ago. I remember his brother John calling him a pee pee brain and it seems he was given a position with the Gambinos simply out of nepotism and the same is often said about Peter and the youngest brother Vinnie. There is a couple of occasions that Gene Gotti was picked up on tape calling Pete an asshole and said he should of stayed a sanitation man and the only reason he was installed as acting boss was because nobody else was available.

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  13. I remember reading a wiretap transcript with John Carneglia stating to I believe Kevin McMahon that he wished to plead out to a deal he could have taken during the first go round of trials and would have been home in 1990 or 91 but John Sr would not allow it and those guys spent some time trying to bribe jurors and trying to fix the case. Their third trial in 89 ended with a guilty conviction and John Carneglia was quoted saying when he got out he would piss on the grave of the judge or jury foreman im not sure but some speculate that is one of the reasons they were hammered so hard but who knows. I touched on those guys rotting for another 20 years because of Sr's wishes in a post about a week ago.

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  14. He was said to be knocked down to soldier. I've heard a few heavyweights that got out of prison after long stretches hauled up stakes for the west coast.

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  15. hey ed, not to change subject, just caught a show on cnbc debut tonite called "american vice" follows 3 sports betting crews, 2 in ny and one in philly (whos apparently natg's cousin)
    anyway the one crew is headed by frank steele pontillo, a few years ago u had an article of him ratting on people and ratted on big anges bartender, and quick research show this guy even wore a wire on his own father...and now hes running a huge gambling ring and even doing it on a show? any info on this guy, rats and still out and about...thanks

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  16. From what I heard - it is hearsay - but Gene got money on the street, a little loan sharking operation to keep money coming in for him. The Gottis were stupid, but not that stupid. They invested a lot of that drug money. Word used to be they own half of Queens legit through dummy names and whatnot. Take it for what it's worth, but I wouldn't doubt it. How else is this entire family surviving without legitimate work, and surviving ain't the word. They're living in the lap of luxury.

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  17. Ed, I do think plea deals in Genes era was out of the question because the prosecution would also want them to admit being a member of an on going criminal enterprise going as far as naming the "Gambino Crime Family" which was out of the question because then it's public record and knowledge. Any made member or associate or whoever involved with any of the families was to deny the existence of such, at least that's the old way. It was different times back then, not like today where everybody knows everything. Even the Genovese had the same rule I think. I think after Sammy Bull ratted and opened the flood gates is when that rule changed or wasn't as strictly enforced. That's why Neil Dellacroce's son went on the lam. When he pled out, he admitted to being a member of the Gambino Crime family or mentioned them in his plea. He knew that was a no no. Maybe that's why he OD'd. Who knows?

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  18. Your correct the allocation was always part of the plea and some bosses likened it to ratting.

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  19. I heard he had over 500k on the street earning juice. Ed mentioned he still has some high ranking men visit him regularly so it will be interesting to see if he becomes a big player again or retires. ....

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  20. Hey Eddie can you reach out to your sources to find out any current status info of imprisoned Westies i.e. Jimmy Coonan and Kevin Kelly?

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  21. I remember reading somewhere I believe on gangland that Genie before he went in set up a joint loansharking operation with Joey Scopo but as I am sure you know Scopo was killed in the Columbo war in 93 but somebody else probably stepped in to oversee things. To have a guy from another family be your partner if true speaks volumes about his trust for his own men and his confidence in his brothers and nephews who were still on the street when he went in.

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  22. I can see the case being made for the New York girls and their relevance in the mob wife world to some extent but the Philly girls not so sure about. Natalie DiDonato claim is being related to Frankie Flowers and what comes to mind is the age difference between the two. Was she even born when he got killed, she claims that was her cousin he would be almost 90 if he were alive today so it may be her 5th cousin or one of her grandparents cousins and the other Natalie I think her biggest connection is her family owns a funeral home where some mob guys were or presently prefer to be laid out. Are the shows producers having issues finding women willing to go on the show?

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  23. I don't know if you guys are familiar with the 18th Ave. Zips in Brooklyn. That's where the new power is from supposedly. They hate everything Gotti. But as no one really wants to start dropping bodies in the street these days I'm sure some quiet arrangement will be made. Gene has the reputation of having more business smarts than brother John Sr.

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  24. Im sure will find out soon but as long as the Gottis are involved ur gonna have problems if history has taught us anything thetefore if the Siggies wanna run things somebodys gotta go no matter how much heat it brings if Gene feels he.s owed he might want top spot could be a problem. Philly

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  25. No, I'm speaking of Pollock, La which actually has a high security US Pen and a minimum camp.


    Richard does not live in Milton. When I asked Ed about him, I wasn't talking about what's been in the newspapers or on blog message boards.

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  26. K, I hope this avatar gives me more credibility. It doesn't have an oval head w/no shoulders BUT it's got "stones". LOL

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  27. Natalie is a sweet piece though

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  28. Talk 'bout a "dud' ending................

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  29. Gene Gotti inmate number 04193-016 is at FCI Pollack and you are correct Pollack does have a USP still but Gene Gotti is not there according to the BOP inmate locator page. The reference for the info about Richard Gotti I posted is a little site you may have heard of called Ganglandnews on October 04 2012 it states Richard Gotti was arrested the week prior for assaulting his new wife at their Milford Pa home. I was mistaken it was not Milton I apologize but if he is not residing in PA and your aware of where he is living do share please. Thanks

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  30. There might be having a problem finding enough mob girls who fuck black guys considering the producer her sister and karenwho go.s eastcoastand west coast homeys . They might have to draft a few white girls from the NBA. My Bad. Lol Philly

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  31. Yep, can see what you mean... other guys were part of the case, like Arnold Squitieri but they got lesser sentences. Someone commented below as to probably why. I can't verify what he said about Carnegs pissing off everyone.....

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  32. If I were in the Gambinos I wouldn't want him around ... surely the Gotti name alone will just bring headlines and heat.

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  33. Allocution, I believe. FUN FACT:When Rizzuto pleaded guilty to a racketeering charge in 2007 that encapsulated the three murders, He was required to provide an allocution as part of the plea. He was reluctant to reveal his role in the now-infamous triple homicide, portrayed inaccurately in the 1997 film Donnie Brasco. The prosecution had a statement from an informant alleging Rizzuto took part in the ambush with other mobsters, his gun blazing. But in his allocution Rizzuto only admitted to being armed when Alphonse (Sonny Red) Indelicato, Philip (Phil Lucky) Giaccone and Dominick (Big Trin) Trinchera were invited to a club in Brooklyn, where they were murdered.

    “Well, I was one of the guys to participate in this. My job was to say, ‘It’s a hold up,’ when I went into the room (I said), ‘so everybody stand still.’ (At) this moment the other people came in and they started shooting the other guys,” Rizzuto told U.S. District Court Judge Nicholas Garaufis on May 4, 2007. Rizzuto also admitted to being armed during the ambush, enough to satisfy the judge to a point where he could accept the guilty plea.

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  34. Okay.... WHO ARE YOU???? LOL!! I think I know but you are entitled to privacy as much as anyone else... I am curious though.... if you want to email me: eddie2843@gmail.com
    NP either way...

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  35. Another Gotti just came home:

    VINCENT GOTTI
    Register Number: 05107-748
    Age: 62
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Released On: 02/20/2015

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  36. No, I wouldn't either. I get hold of information that provides insight into anyone or anything, I tend to prefer to get it out there...

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  37. In a post where? LOL! I only could found the reference I added to the story...Ironically, Gene Gotti was given an opportunity to accept a plea deal that would've permitted a prison sentence of around 10 to 15 years; meaning he would've been free to celebrate the Millennium. However, John Gotti "adhering to the mob dictum that forbids admitting guilt urged them to go to trial. Gotti, then the newly coronated king of the Gambino family, then tried to fix the jury, according to prosecutors. But things did not go according to plan...."

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  38. I'll have to catch a rerun .... interesting point....

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  39. They were supposed to do a Philly spinoff but it never happened. Jennifer Graziano was initially courting Alicia DiMichelle, who refused but later seemed to reluctantly accept. By then they had done away with the spinoff idea. I think they were having a great deal of difficulty finding legitimate mob wives, in Philly as well as Chicago who were willing to be on the show, which was documented. The Mob seems more active in Philly than in New York right now. Once connected guys tell me they don't know where the hell they are in New York.... Philly is getting so many guys back the family there could be on the verge of a major resurgence....

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  40. I get it, I do. But aren't you glad there was no Alite or Gotti in the story? LOL!

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  41. Hahahaha! Your on the money Philly

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  42. I understand he's at the FCI. I never said he was at the USP or the FPC. I said Pollock was a tough facility.


    Thanks for posting the info from that online blog. We wouldn't have known anything about it otherwise...even though that incident was in every single newspaper in Pennsylvania, New York, Chicago and in Europe.

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  43. her body is but that face......

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  44. The NY and NJ families on The Sopranos were outraged when Johnny Sack admitted he was part of Cosa Nostra for his 15-year plea. Do all the Genovese guys doing 3-year pleas admit their membership to the mafia and the Genovese family? Chin was okay/encouraged this?

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  45. Nobody cares about that junkie, he probably crawled up with a bottle of booze, pills and "junk" the minute he got home. I'll bet he drops dirty within the year. LOL

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  46. didnt u see the news report a few weeks back...twitter stuff etc..about her not being related? she lied...frankies own daughter and grand kids were on the local news and all, she lied to get on show

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  47. see if its ondemand, it was a decent show..real behind the scenes, wondering if the feds will be on these guys after making it so public, kinda dumb for them guys to do the show if u ask me

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  48. After the feds proved Chin wasn't looney tunes, I think he eventually gave in cause something involved with one his sons or something like that.

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  49. I know the Chin had a rat in his pocket -- everyone told him to kill the guy but the Chin refused and that was the guy who gave him up....

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  50. At least it will give us something to read about in the papers if there's a war in the streets. I think '93 was the last one, the Persicos.

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  51. Good point I think virtually all the guys that went away in the 80's with Scarfo are home by now and off post release supervision and alot of them are only in their early fifties and the guys that went away with Merlino are home as well. The biggest question that comes to mind is will they be able to work together without the shooting starting. Is one of them respected enough by all the factions to be the top guy? The post a couple of weeks ago on here about a three man ruling panel seems to make the most sense I would think as all the factions seemed to be represented. A guy that is still inside Frank Faffy Ianarella but comes home not too long from now is mentioned often as being boss material. It was known and written about by Anastasia and said so by Leonetti, Natale, etc that the Bruno family answered to the Genovese do nyou think that still holds true or did that arrangement cease at some point?

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  52. With regard to "plea bargains" in Gene's era (80s), the Eastern District's purpose was to "throw the book at him". It was Judge Bartels, that gave Gene the maximum sentence allowable. It was several yrs after his arrest when he was actually convicted and during the trial (a long one) several jurors were threatened by members of the Gambino family. Gene Gotti deserved to go to prison for 50 years and so did Carneglia and Ruggiero...and all the others.

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  53. Allocution is simply where a Judge asks a Defendant before sentencing, "Do you have anything to say to the Court?" It has nothing to do with what a Defendant has been convicted of or whether or not they've accepted a plea. They can answer whatever they wish, "Sorry... I broke the law because...and so on and so on...."

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  54. Has anyone seen the latest photo of gene in prison? He looks pretty good I thought, all grey but still looked the same.

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  55. Yea cause no real wives would wanna do this bs. I know they asked merlinos sister and she told them to beat it. Nat d is a phony no mobties what so ever nat g affiliation is questionable the names blacked out i know who it supposedly is not sure if he ok'd it tho. It not her ex tho hes no gangster

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  56. sorry RICO; but to allucate to a crime ,is to admit things in the crime you are being charged with, you have to tell your part of the crime or your involvement, it gets worked out bet the prosecuter and your lawyer before you are sentenced, the judge will ask questions and you have to answer them, he might ask you to describe certain things, then he will ask the prosecution if they are satisfied then they ask you and your attorney if you are satisfied if both parties agree, the sentence you agrred upon will be handed down.

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  57. LOL You mean "allocute"? You've been misinformed and I'm in the legal field. Have a good day.

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  58. Will do Danny72, on my part. Thanks for the post.

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  59. The family and "family" have disowned him.

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  60. I still don't get the point of this comment. You trying to show us how smart you are?

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