New Wise Guys Inc. Podcast Features Son Of Former Colombo Underboss Wild Bill

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Bill Cutolo, former Mob Candy editor Nick Christophers, and John DeSalvo have launched a new podcast called Wise Guys Inc.

Bill Cutolo, Nick Christophers, John DeSalvo, Wise Guys Inc podcast



The podcast available now features special guest Ronnie Kerner, "a bad ass mobster who was under mob boss Sonny Franzese of the Colombo family," according to the podcast's webpage on Soundcloud.

See the Wise Guys Inc. Facebook page.

Nick Christophers was the editor of Mob Candy magazine. He has authored several books, including the novels Destinies Vol II - No Honor Among Thieves and Destinies, and the non-fiction works, Mafia Ties - The Greek Syndicates, and Prison Rules (with John Alite).

John DeSalvo is a former University Professor and Dean, an author, and a TV and radio personality.

Billy Cutolo is the son of former Colombo underboss William (Wild Bill) Cutolo.

Wild Bill had been promoted to underboss of the Colombo crime family following the third Colombo war. In 1999, Cutolo was last seen en route to that meeting (ironically, Feds had been tailing Cutolo on the last day of his life, but Cutolo ditched them).  In 2004, Alphonse (Allie Boy) Persico and the family's underboss John (Jackie) DeRoss were indicted for conspiring to murder Cutolo.

On December 28, 2007, Persico and DeRoss were convicted of Cutolo's murder, and both were eventually given life imprisonment -- though Cutolo's body was not found until almost a year later, in October 2008, when Federal agents searching a field in East Farmingdale, New York, based on tips, found human remains wrapped up in a blue tarp.


In one of the Wise Guys podcasts
, Bill Junior discussed the highly personal period of his life that started on the night his father didn’t show up for dinner with his crew at the club.

The following is based on my notes:

“We did not find his body for eight years. I decided to help the government. I wore a wire for 18 months; I did what I needed to do. I went into witness protection for about five years. For 20 years I did not do anything.

“I met Nick and now we’re both knee-deep in a book....

“I got off the street in 2001 after my 18 months were up. Took my wife, my 2-year-old son and went into the program. It was difficult for the three of us. You’re confined, there’s nothing to do. My pictures had been in the newspaper, so you have to be careful where you go, who you become friends with, who you talk to. It’s hard to make yourself into someone else.

“I knew my dad was in the life. I saw the Godfather posters in the basement, the pictures of Cagney, Bogart, Edward G Robinson. My father also had a print of the Norman Rockwell painting “Willie takes a step.”

“I miss the life, miss the comradery. I was fooled into believing it was comradery as I found out after they whacked my father.

“You move to one place – you’re eating hand to mouth. You can’t get a job – where you been, who are you – you can’t answer the questions (because you can’t discuss your past). When you are in the program the government tells you to lie. They moved me from the first place after seven months.”

When he told his family he was wearing a wire:

“It was Thanksgiving 2001, we were at a table with 15 people, my wife, my whole family. My wife knew what was going on. When I told my family they were taken aback, but no one left table. They just said why didn’t you tell us. Because I was told not to tell you. That’s what they told me, the FBI, NYPD, etc.

“Once you’re in witness protection, it’s a continuous lie. While this went on, I tried to tell my mother I was not walking away from my father’s murder.

“You go to your FBI contact, you turn your device over to at the end of the day, they treat you like a brother. They start feeding you BS.

“Anger management – I recommend to everyone

“You become more venomous – had the tape going I wanted to shut it off.”

“The night I lost my dad – I knew it didn’t come from anyone else. I knew my dad was in good standing. That night I knew it came out of our own backyard. The night he disappeared was club night. We gathered at the club, it was all men – we had dinner. That night he didn’t show up. At around 7-730 Jackie DeRoss sits in my dad’s chair. I knew something was wrong right there. My dad told me don’t let anyone know what you are thinking.” ....  

TK...

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