Renee Graziano Now the Mob Wives Outsider?
From AllAboutTRH |
"Renee Graziano used to be considered a “top dog,” when it came to the Mob Wives cast, now it seems, she is an outsider who isn’t exactly liking her younger castmates. A source close to the Mob Wives EXCLUSIVELY tells AllAboutTRH, that Renee is even resorting to posting “sexier” pics of herself like the other ladies, and is now trying to cling to all the Bravo housewives!
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“Renee hates that all the girls aren’t putting up with her drama anymore, and are remaining close with each other. She’s definitely an outsider now, which drives her crazy because she likes to put this image out there for the camera and the show like she’s a ‘boss,’ and is ‘running things.’ Renee is even mad that some of the girls get attention for posting certain pics of themselves, so she’s been posting pictures of her ass on Instagram. We think she’s just going through a midlife crisis.
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“The ladies all went to an Ok! Magazine Party and they all stuck together and had a great time, while Renee just stayed in the corner giving them dirty looks. Renee wants to be a housewife, so she was clinging to the Bravo Housewives all night long trying to get photographed with them. She thinks if she is seen with them, her book sales will go up. Everyone is pretty much over her.”
Hey Ed, I know that this is off subject, but I have a big question that perhaps you have an answer for. Do you suppose that if the American Mafia replaces all of its members with guys straight from Italy, that the American Mafia can make a full comeback? Maybe even recruit members from the Camorra, Cosa Nostra, and the Ndrangheta for fresh, new blood? It seems like the American Mafia's only hope. What do you think? Personally, I am tired of all of these reality TV freaks messing up the image.
ReplyDeleteThe answer to ur question is in the old days u moved up the ladder slow u had guys who would take u under there wing and groom ya you learned the in and outs of tthe bussiness how to set up hits who to trust. But with this rico law intstead of doing a five strecth it turned to 15 to 20 the old timers died in the joint or got knocked off. Now u have a vacancy the boss puts a son or brother in charged instead of the guy who was next in line ur forty yrs old taken orders from a kid who.s 28 never been groomed thinks he knows everything and the rest is what u got today. Like big corporations u have to down size put people around u trust and u have to share the wealth once greed sets in the whole thing turns to shit and u leave guys three choices do life Rat or shoot it out till ur dead either way ur flat out fucked in the end.
DeleteAmerican Mafioso historically distrust Sicilian/Italian members. They partner with them but "double indoctrination" generally is a no go. Carlo Gambino set the precedent, I believe, in the few years before he died, telling Tommasso Buschetta for example to stay out of the rackets. He also paid the later-informant a package of cash as tribute, which Buscetta returned unopened. Gambling sent word that TB had made a bad mistake. Yet all mobsters are opportunistic. Lilo for instance INDUCTED KNOWN SICILIAN MEMBERS INTO THE AMERICAN BONANNO FAMILY! In 1977 Frank Copland testified that in 1977, Galante, acting as boss, held a two-part induction ceremony, making Zips members of the Bonanno family, while Coppa and other American guys waited in the bathroom for their turn. The Rizzotos, father Nicolo and son Vic, were originally made in Sicily but also became full-fledged Bonanno members. This was a confusing time in America's gangland. Something else, in Italy many members held triple affiliations. A member of Cosa Nostra would also be made into both the Camorra and Ndrangheta, for example. This was contingent on other factors. Many times the groups would form alliances, such as when cigarette smuggling was.huge. Seems rules.can be overlooked for the "greater good." It's confusing, but I've always said NOTHING is black and white in the Mafia. But American families would go to war before they'd let anyone steal their rackets.
DeleteExcuse autospell incorrect tweaks: Gambino not gambling -- Coppa not Copland etc.
DeleteAnd the cigarette smuggling operation provided the infrastructure used when drugs became the commodity of choice. But the same networks from cigarette ops were often used for heroin.
Ed, cigarette smuggling is now big business because of the increase of the sales tax on smokes. It's more lucrative than drug dealing and if caught, there is a much lighter sentence. I don't think cigarette smuggling is a rico predicate as well, I could be wrong.
DeleteNow that's the case but I was taking about the '60s when the Sicilians took over the French Connection....
DeleteEd not to be an asshole but can you name one person who was a member of Cosa Nostra first and was then made in the Camorra or Ndrangheta? I believe there is or was a mafia pecking order with Cosa Nostra at the top then Ndrangheta and Camorra at the bottom. Guys have been 'made up' so to speak from camorra to ndrangheta or cosa nostra but I have never heard of anyone going the opposite direction.
DeleteI can give you a list. With you as my reader don't you know I love to make the wildest most bizarre claims, knowing you'll ask about them? I'm doing a story on this; Dickie in Mafia Republic writes extensively about this; Coppa's testimony about Lilo is from The Sixth Family....thought you read email all? Don 'Ntoni (Antonio Macri was Ndrangheta who was also made in Cosa Nostra and Camorra.
Delete"Read em all" that should be...
DeleteI've read Mafia Republic several times if you look at what I wrote I agree that Camorristi such as Zaza and the Nuvolettas became Mafiosi. Ndranghetisti like Macri and Tripodo also joined the mafia and you had Camorristi like Cutolo who became Ndranghetisti BUT what I've never read about was a Mafioso who then became a Camorristi or Ndranghetisti. Basically the Sicilian Mafia was the cream of the crop. If you were a member of the Sicilian mafia already you wouldn't lower yourself to then join the Camorra. Thats what I was asking about, if you could name someone who was a Mafioso first and later joined one of the other organizations. I learn something new everyday so if you could school me on this I appreciate the info and I'll stand corrected.
DeleteTo add I know your a member of the black hand forum and there is a discussion going on there about guys being made in sicily and then america and it seems the consensus is that you can't be made on both sides. I would agree with you because I thought Galante made quite a few sicilians who were already amico nostra but all my examples were shot down. Join the discussion or at least peruse the thread.
DeleteHeres the link
Deletehttp://organizecrime.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5203
Galante did make Sicilians: it is in court testimony. When I have a chance I'll look for a Sicilian who joined the other groups on the mainland. They did, I am reading, highlighting and noting what I read in Mafia Republic, which I am now in the middle of. If they of the Black Hand (i include the link on this blog... can you find it?) dispute court testimony that fits the overall story, that offers no benefit to prompt Coppa to commit perjury and lose his golden ticket to WitSec then they are in la-la land. Please post this quote there if you like. I have too much work to do right now to deal with stubborn fools. No offense, Funz. It's almost 1am and I haven't had dinner yet.
DeleteYou canNOT be made both in Sicily and the US. If you pledge your allegiance to Palermo, that's that. You can be recognized here as a made man, but you cannot be made into 2 families. Please, this is ridiculous.
DeleteAs for the other.... Some of the Camorra is/was definitely Cosa Nostra. Cosa Nostra has a cosca in Napoli since the 1930s. The Nuvoletta brothers were Cosa Nostra and there was a faction which were controlled directly by Michele Greco. Also, Carmine Alfieri said that Riina and Provenzano stayed with the Nuvoletta brothers in the early 1980s during the fighting with Raffaele Cutolo. So Cosa Nostra had a confirmed presence in Napoli but only the bosses or select people from Camorra who were Cosa Nostra.
See Mafia Republic, bottom of page 157 (thanks for raising the issue; I contacted John Dickie and he's agreed to chat with me), and testimony of Frank Coppa, which does not seem to be available online.
DeleteLink to "Sixth Family" that clearly says what I wrote: http://books.google.com/books?id=0ZygQJNYV1MC&pg=PT101&lpg=PT101&dq=galante+inducting+sicilians+into+bonanno+family&source=bl&ots=DY-Ew_Jd4X&sig=rqSdoYL9LUeP_F8kemdfxfl_uTQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=D_CNU8WdCYvJsQSi7oHIAw&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=galante%20inducting%20sicilians%20into%20bonanno%20family&f=false
DeleteIt doesn't matter if you're pure Italian or not. Life imprisonment would crumble any organization. Back in the day , you did a couple years , you're out and back to crime. The new blood would just end up like the Italian American youths that were enlisted. Why is the Italian mob so successful? They're illegal business's are off shore in country's were laws on crimes aren't strict , connections in politics , members who don't corporate are killed off. If the American mafia can't govern it's own house or provide benefits for a criminal entrepreneur then why would they join in the first place. Why do you think so many associates prefer to stay as they are?
ReplyDeleteUr right on point better to kick up a percentage than to get fully involved and have all that heat from the feds and the constant looking over ur back from others in the crew.
DeleteI agree with you to an extent. But I think that what's left of the American Mafia is slowly making a comeback, due to the weakening economy and law enforcement cutbacks, among other things. Also, the American Mafia has hopefully learned from past mistakes and can figure out a way to better operate under tougher laws. I don't think it's over for the Mafia. If the drug cartels can come over here and thrive, then I think the Mafia can do the same. That's my thoughts anyway.
DeleteAlso the American Mafia -- the five families at least -- have outlawed murder. This is specifically to avoid the heat of a crime with no statute of limitations. Also because it will stop guys from flipping. Think about it -- what was most recent gangland hit in NY? Anyone hear anything about whether Philadelphia is following suit? Wonder if mob is stepping back from drugs, too. Accardo made it through life out of prison partly because he kept the killings down in the Outfit; then Spilotro in Vegas happened and some fools robbed Accardo's house. Trunk music played for quite a while. Speaking of Chicago: Read some stuff about Bill Roemer, the deluded former FBI agent. Seems he was writing fiction and calling it nonfiction. I hate to speak ill of the dead.but I wrote in an Amazon review that he was a blowhard.....
DeleteEd, the type of murders that are really bad for business are the ones that happen due to power struggles and infighting. Like the Colombo family wars, the Lucchese family New York and New Jersey factions breaking up when Vittorio Amuso and Anthony Casso were in charge, the 3 Bonanno family captains killed in 1981, the unsanctioned hit on Paul Castellano so John Gotti could take over the Gambino family, and the Genovese family taking out captain Adolfo Bruno which not only was unnecessary, the way it was carried out was stupid. Plus he was a valuable captain. Now if someone steps out of line, then sure quickly take him out. But crime families should really learn how to share and get along with each other. Especially since they can't keep their mouths shut when the murder indictments come down. Every crime family needs someone like Tony Accardo or Vito Rizzuto in charge.
DeleteDoes it still count if they farm out the murders to the Mexicans or anybody else?
DeleteEd, do you think that the Mob has finally learned their lessons about trying to be celebrity gangsters? I'm talking about showoffs like John Gotti.
DeleteUnder the picture its got 2500 likes she text that her self she looks like a guy i can drink a bottle of scotch falling down i wouldnt tap that ur talking NYC many of fine looking young ladies .
ReplyDeleteRenee Graziano? Oofah!
ReplyDeleteNatalie guercio one hot tomali
DeleteI think the last N.Y. hit was a Bonanno guy in Staten Island a few years back.
ReplyDeleteAnd before that Randy Pizzolo another Bonanno associate.
As for the drugs dont not sure about that N.Y. in past 5 years repealed the the "Rockafeller" Drug laws which were some of the stiffest in the nation with HARD Minimum guidelines on the State level.
With those gone now unless your dealing in big big weight you would much better now time wise than in the 80's and 90's...
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